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chiaravanpassen
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Posted 8 years ago

Hello',

Like you probably noticed I'm very new at this forum . My 2 daughters will be traveling through Europe with a Global Pass (interrail) for the whole month of July and a few days in August. Because they're both very busy studying I'm trying to plan the trip for them but I can't get started. Everytime I go to DB Bahn or Thalys or ... I have to pay a lot of extra costs for reservation or the expected night train is cancelled or or or. I can't really get started. I already sort of booked their hostels and a few flights (Brussels to Oslo, Porto to Berlin and ending Rome to Brussels) I really want to support you all by bying all tickets through rail.cc but I do hope you can help me a bit. Thanks in advance. Planning till now :

30-jun Charleroi Oslo 11u30 13u25 PLANE
2-jul Oslo Stockholm 07u32 13u20
4-jul Stockholm Kopenhagen 08u21 13u22
6-jul Kopenhagen Amsterdam 07u43 19u00
9-jul Amsterdam Barcelona 17u18 11u09
13-jul Barcelona Madrid 08u00 11u10
14-jul Madrid Porto 22u30 10u17
17-jul Porto Berlijn 15u45 20u00 PLANE
22-jul Berlijn Budapest 18u14 08u37
25-jul Budapest Vienna 11u10 14u12
27-jul Vienna Venetie 21u25 08u34
29-jul Venetie Rome 09u50 13u35
2-aug Rome Zaventem 19u20 21u40 PLANE

Kind regards


Jorgen

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Jorgen!

Let\'s have a look at each single leg of the planned trip:

Oslo - Stockholm: The direct trains are Snabbtag high speed trains; reservation is compulsory (62 SEK/7€). You can buy the reservation online either via our partner ACP at [ux]https://rail.shop/acprail/reservation/[/ux] or directly via Swedish Railways SJ at sj.se (go to english version of the website, then select a connection and choose the Interrail/Eurail seat reservation option.
There are alternative connections available which can be used without a seat reservation, however these take considerably longer and I would recommend to travel with a direct train.

Stockholm - Copenhagen: There are hourly direct Snabbtag trains to Malmö, some of them continue beyond Malmö to Copenhagen. Again, 7€ compulsory reservation. In practice it would be no problem to take a train to Malmö only and then continue by Öresundtrain to Copenhagen - these are regional trains running every 20 minutes across Öresund.
There are just one or two regular Intercity trains between Stockholm and Malmö, running around weekends. These wouldnt require a reservation. Alternatively it is possible to travel without reservations via Göteborg but again this would consume quite some time. There is also a night train from Stockholm to Malmö-

Copenhagen - Amsterdam: Sadly, the direct night train has been withdrawn. During summer, the international trains from Copenhagen to Hamburg require a seat reservation (~4€). The remaining trains between Hamburg and Amsterdam can be used without a reservation.

Amsterdam - Barcelona: I suppose Belgium is your country of residence? You cant travel through your country of residence with Interrail. So, you would have to travel around Belgium or buy a ticket for the part across Belgium. I\'d recommend to buy an advance fare ticket from Amsterdam to Paris for Thalys either via [u]https://rail.shop/beurope/[/u] or [ux]https://rail.shop/nsinternational/[/ux] The connection from Amsterdam at 15:17 is currently available for 70€ for 2 Youths (until 25 years).

The reservation for the night train from Paris to the Spanish border (either Latour de Carol or Cerbere) is available at [ux]https://rail.shop/sncf/reservation/[/ux]
Current rumours say that the night train Paris - Cerbere will be withdrawn in July, so you would have to use the train to Latour de Carol.

Barcelona - Madrid: AVE high speed trains run at least hourly, 10€ compulsory reservation. Available online via [ux]https://rail.shop/acprail/reservation/[/ux]

Madrid - Porto: The night train reservation should be available online at [ux]https://rail.shop/acprail/reservation/[/ux]

Berlin - Budapest: Night train reservation is available online at [ux]https://rail.shop/bahn/Berlin-Hbf/Budapest[/ux]
Read here for instructions: [u]https://rail.cc/en/night-train/berlin-budapest-en-477/53[/u]

Budapest - Vienna: Direct trains at least every two hours, no reservation needed

Vienna - Venice: Night train reservation should be available via [ux]https://rail.shop/acprail/reservation/[/ux]

Venice - Rome: Direct Frecciargento high speed trains every hour, 10€ compulsory reservation. Reservations can be bought locally at ticket machines or online at trenitalia.com


Flo 8)

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Flo,

Thxs a lot for everything, I'll get started and promise you to order everything through rail.cc

Kind regards

Jorgen

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

Hej Jorgen,

you're welcome. Just write here if there are any troubles or if you are looking for alternative connections without reservations etc...we are always glad to help.
Thanks for supporting! :)


Flo 8)

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Flo,

Thanks a lot, you have been a great help.
I've booked a lot already but I guess a few of the trips are too soon to book. I can get to Paris - France but it won't work to go further through to Barcelona.

Online prices are currently unavailable for the selected route.
Please call 1-866-938-RAIL (toll free for USA & Canada) to complete your booking.
We apologize for any inconvenience.


Barcelona Sants to Madrid, Madrid to Porto, Budapest to Vienna and Venice s.l. to Rome are to early tobook already I guess.
I'll figure it out unless you have some tips for me

Kind regards

Jorgen

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Wouter
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replied 8 years ago

Most of the trains can only be booked 3 months in front. I'm having the same problems at the moment ;)

Have fun planning!

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Thanks Wouter, that's what I thought, enjoy your planning

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Flo or Wouter or ...

How do you book from Rygge Airport to the center of Oslo with interrail and with NSB ?
Or is there a better way to get to the center of Oslo?
Seems like the Aerobuss in not ok and expensive !

Jorgen

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Jorgen!

There are hourly trains from Rygge to Oslo: [u]https://www.nsb.no/rutetider/rutetabell/_attachment/12123?_ts=153818ebe28[/u]
A free shuttle bus connects Rygge airport with the train station.
Trains are operated by NSB and are free with Interrail.


Flo 8)

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Flo,

Thanks a lot for the information till now, I\'ve booked a lot, most through rail.cc
Can you help me with the reservation for Madrid - Porto. I\'m not sure how to fill in the
São Bento Train Station in Porto on the [ux]https://rail.shop/acprail/reservation[/ux] page. Or should I use the Porto Campanha connection which I can\'t probably book for July, 14 yet ?

Thanks (again)

Jorgen

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

There is no direct train Madrid - Porto, so you wont get a single reservation for that route. What connection do you want to use? Night train Madrid - Coimbra, then day train to Porto or night train Madrid - Vigo, then day train to Porto? Both night train should be available on ACP, though the connecting day trains can only be reserved locally.

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Flo,

I guess the Vigo connection is better because otherwise my daughters will be in Coimbra station in the middle of the night :(

Thanks again

Jorgen

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

[quote]Hi Flo,

I guess the Vigo connection is better because otherwise my daughters will be in Coimbra station in the middle of the night :(

Thanks again

Jorgen[/quote]



From

Madrid
To
Vigo
Departure
2016-07-14
Reservations Only

does not work yet

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

OK, many RENFE trains (Spanish Railways) are open for sales at rather short notice. You can only look on renfe.com if the train is available for booking - it then is normally also available via ACP.

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Flo,

I received a mail today form SNCF to book my trip from Amsterdam to Barcelona.
It concerned the part from Paris Austerlitz to Toulouse Matabiau.
I need to get further from Toulouse Matabiau to Barcelona Sants, do I need a (free) reservation because if I try to book it and fill in Global Pass I still need to pay 70 Euro for 2

zondag10 juli (D-1)
08u06 TOULOUSE MATABIAU, 11u21 BARCELONA SANTS
08u06 TOULOUSE MATABIAU
11u21 BARCELONA SANTS
Direct RENFE SNCF Reisdetails
reiziger 1 12-25 jaar ESSENTIAL € 35,00
reiziger 2 12-25 jaar ESSENTIAL € 35,00


Thanks for the help

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Coryza
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Chiara,

Alternatively you could also go for the free route, that will not require reservations (on your date).
07:55 AM TOULOUSE MATABIAU (France)
10:33 AM PERPIGNAN (France) 12 min. transfer time
10:45 AM
11:28 AM PORT-BOU (Spain) 1hr07 transfer time
12:35 PM
03:09 PM BARCELONA SANTS (Spain)

It is a small 4 hour extra traveling time, but it'll save you apparently 70 euro's :)

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

As Coryza wrote, I would prefer the connection without extra reservations too. Another alternative would be to go across the Pyrennes via Latour de Carol. Are you planning on taking the night train from Paris to Toulouse?

You are looking for Toulouse - Barcelona reservation at [ux]https://rail.shop/sncf/reservation/[/ux]? Reservations for the AVE and TGV trains between France and Spain are not available there; you would have to buy them at a station. The cost is listed here: [u]https://rail.cc/en/interrail-train-reservation/tgv-france-espana/298[/u]

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi,

Thxs both for the replies, I checked everything on rail.cc and combined this with the Rail Planner app on my Iphone. So I already booked the Amsterdam - Paris through Thalys (Belgium hometown) and sncf for Paris Toulouse.
Now if I read everything correct my daughters can take the free route

07:55 AM TOULOUSE MATABIAU (France)
10:33 AM PERPIGNAN (France) 12 min. transfer time
10:45 AM
11:28 AM PORT-BOU (Spain) 1hr07 transfer time
12:35 PM
03:09 PM BARCELONA SANTS (Spain)

or take the TGV and pay for the reservation (Toulouse - Barcelona: EUR 11,90) in the TOULOUSE MATABIAU station once they arrive there guessing this is the 08u06 TOULOUSE MATABIAU, to 11u21 BARCELONA SANTS

This is correct I hope ??

Not easy being a dad nowadays !!!

Jorgen

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

Yes, this is correct. What train do you have planned for Paris - Toulouse?

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi and thanks,

I booked the train 3753 from PARIS AUSTERLITZ (22h52) to TOULOUSE MATIBIAU (06h45) om July, 09 arriving in Toulouse on July, 10

Regards

Jorgen

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

Alright...that's not ideal as you could also have booked the night train to either Latour de Carol or Cerbere, both directly at the Spanish border.

Anyway, this would leave you with the following options:

a) Toulouse Matabiau 0848 - 1136 Latour de Carol
Latour de Carol 1347 - 1650 Barcelona Sants

If you are lucky you could catch:
Toulouse Matabiau 0648 - 0947 Latour de Carol
Latour de Carol 1113 - 1412 Barcelona Sants

b) Toulouse Matabiau 0815 - 0957 Narbonne
Narbonne 1157 - 1328 Portbou
Portbou 1433 - 1709 Barcelona Sants

@Coryza: Where did you find the 0755 departure from Toulouse??

c) The direct AVE train with compulsory reservation.

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

With your last option

c) The direct AVE train with compulsory reservation.

do you mean

take the TGV and pay for the reservation (Toulouse - Barcelona: EUR 11,90) in the TOULOUSE MATABIAU station once they arrive there guessing this is the 08u06 TOULOUSE MATABIAU, to 11u21 BARCELONA SANTS

or probably the

SundaY juli, 10 (D-1)
08u06 TOULOUSE MATABIAU, 11u21 BARCELONA SANTS
08u06 TOULOUSE MATABIAU
11u21 BARCELONA SANTS
Direct RENFE SNCF Reisdetails
Passenger 1 12-25 jaar ESSENTIAL € 35,00
Passenger 2 12-25 jaar ESSENTIAL € 35,00

I don't know the difference between those 2 trains or options

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

The direct AVE:

Toulouse Matabiau 0806 - 1121 Barcelona Sants

Reservation with Interrail is 11,90€; the Essential fare for 35€ is a regular ticket and has nothin to do with Interrail.

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Allright thanks and sorry for asking that much I'm really not that good in it it appears !!

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Coryza
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replied 8 years ago

@Flo: Interrail Timetable, on the date that was mentioned.

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

Nice, I've seen it now too on [ux]http://plan.rail.cc/[/ux]

So, this would be the modified option b) then:

Toulouse Matabiau 0755 - 1033 Perpignan
Perpignan 1045 - 1128 Portbou
Portbou 1235 - 1509 Barcelona Sants

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi Flo, Coryza , Wouter ...

Today all my HERMES PAPER PASSHhttps://rail.cc/en/night-train/sweden/seER RESERVATIONS arrived by post and I also booked the 2 interrail passes for 30 days through rail.cc

I don't think I'll be needing any more advice but I'm very gratefull for all the info, tips and suggestions that you all provided !!

The only tickets that I have to wait for is everything in Spain but I know I have to be patient for it.

Thanks a lot !!

Jorgen

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Coryza
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replied 8 years ago

You're welcome, enjoy your trip!

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Peter
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replied 8 years ago

Hey Jorgen.
Thank you for supporting rail.cc - please just fill the form here for Interrail, so I can set your profile to PLUS. :)
[u]https://rail.cc/en/plus[/u]
Have a great trip, Pete :)

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 8 years ago

Hi,

Should I pay 13 euro for the
Budapest-Keleti Pu. - Wien Hbf connection while there is no reservation required ?
Is taking the risk of standing worth the money ?

Jorgen

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chiaravanpassen
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[quote]Hi,

Should I pay 13 euro for the
Budapest-Keleti Pu. - Wien Hbf connection while there is no reservation required ?
Is taking the risk of standing worth the money ?

Jorgen[/quote]


(during summertime)

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Flo
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replied 8 years ago

I wouldnt make the reservation. If you are early enough at the station you normally always find a seat even during peak summer. Only if you are travelling at the end of Sziget festival I'd make a reservation.

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 7 years ago

Hi,

Probably one of the last questions before leaving on trip ...

I've ordered almost all of my reservations through rail.cc including the trip Madrid Chamartin to Vigo Guixar on July 14 leaving Madrid at 22h14 and arriving the next day in Vigo at 08h46.

The following problem occures, the next train from Vigo Guixar to final destination leaves only 16 minutes later to Porto Campahna (09h02) and it seems it is the only train that day to Porto. Even though it's for free with the global pass you still have to make a reservation in the station.

Are there no other trains (options) to get to Porto (in case they miss the 09h02) and if it is close ¨is the reservation mandatory¨ ??

Thanks for reply in advance ...

Jorgen

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Flo
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replied 7 years ago

Hi Jorgen!

There is a connecting service a few minutes later: [u]http://www.cp.pt/StaticFiles/Passageiros/horarios/horarios/PDF/r_ir_uc/porto_valenca.pdf[/u]

Since reservation for the direct train is free and ridership not too high from what I've heard I guess it shouldnt be a problem to take the Celta even if there is not enough time to get the reservation (maybe they can also try to get it in Madrid already) and after all they also have the option of the later train.
Of course I am always curious about first-hand reports so it would be great to hear from your girls experiences :)


Flo 8)

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 7 years ago

Hi Flo,

Thanks for the quick answer, it's gonna be close because there are no trains between 09h20 and 20h02 but I hope they will catch the 09h02 or the 09h20 and let them buy the reservation in Madrid ...

Jorgen

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Flo
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replied 7 years ago

In case of a delay, they can get off the night train in Guillarei or any other of the following stations already to get the connection towards Porto: [u]https://rail.cc/en/interrail-night-train/madrid-pontevedra-hot-851/209[/u] :)

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 7 years ago

ok that's probably the solution, thanks

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 7 years ago

By the way, I'll keep you informed and updated about their trip, it's the least I can do for all the help

Jorgen

Thanks

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Flo
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replied 7 years ago

Thanks :)

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chiaravanpassen
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replied 7 years ago

Hi everybody (and Flo especially),

As promised here is my daughters travel log, starting station - ending station - price for reservation for 2

The SJ trains had perfect WIFI (Oslo and Stockholm), the others none not even in the Thalys although they promised it would be available.
The French sleep train (Paris Austerlitz Toulouse-Matabiau) was really dirty, the other trains were clean but very hot to sleep on top (the airco worked perfect for the bottom beds but was not strong enough for the top beds)
The Budapest Keleti-Pu - Wien Central Station connection didn't need a reservation although there were a lot of signs in the station telling you that you should buy a reservation. Conductor told afterwards on the train that you didn't need one.
There is more than enough time to get a free reservation at the kiosk in Vigo Guixar to get the train to Porto Campahna (although 15 minutes does not look long)
All in all a lovely experience and worth doing again !! Ask any question you want, I'll try to give advice !
Be carefull for pickpockets in Rome !!!


Moss Airport Rygge Oslo Sentral 14u56 15u49 0
2-jul Oslo Sentral Stockholm Central 08u56 13u54 13,84
4-jul Stockholm Central Københavns Hovedbanegård 08u21 13u24 13,84
6-jul Københavns Hovedbanegård Hamburg Hauptbahnhof 07u37 12u21
Hamburg Hauptbahnhof Osnabrueck Hauptbahnhof 12u46 14u35
Osnabrueck Hauptbahnhof Amsterdam Centraal 15u53 19u00 35
9-jul Amsterdam Centraal Paris Gare du Nord 18u17 21u35 70
Paris Gare du Nord Paris Austerlitz metro
Paris Austerlitz Toulouse-Matabiau 22h52 06h45
Toulouse-Matabiau Barcelona Sants 08u06 11u21 38
13-jul Barcelona Sants Madrid-Puerta de Atocha 08u00 11u10 33
14-jul Madrid-Chamartin Vigo Guixar 22u14 08u46 91
Vigo Guixar Porto Campahna 09u02 10u17
Porto Campahna Porto Sao Bento metro
17-jul Francisco Sa Carneiro Airport (OPO) Berlin Schonefeld Airport(SXF) 15u45 20u00 124,42 plane
22-jul Berlin Hauptbahnhof Budapest Keleti-Pu 18u14 08u37 42
25-jul Budapest Keleti-Pu Wien Central Station 11u40 14u18 0
27-jul Wien Central Station Stazione di Venezia Santa Lucia 21u25 08u12 77
29-jul Stazione di Venezia Santa Lucia Roma Termini 09u25 13u10 33
2-aug Fiumicino Airport Roma (FCO) Brussels Zaventem (BRU) 19u20 21u40 39,2 plane

Thanks for all the help making my daughters trip unforgettable !!!!!


Jorgen

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Flo
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replied 7 years ago

Hi Jorgen,

thanks for the feedback; good to read that your daughters had a good time! :)
Hope that nothing was stolen in Rome?!

Meanwhile I have also completed my trip and already finished a blog about the Vigo to Porto route: [u]https://rail.cc/blog/santiago-vigo-porto/[/u]


Flo 8)

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Wouter
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replied 7 years ago

Good to read your feedback!
I had the samen wifi experience indeed. As of train traveling, Scandinavië is the most relaxing. And the Thalys, yes the internet is free, but it is just rather slow since it uses 1 satellite connection for the train.